I dont know why he wanted out of it making steady money, and all. Now, Davis was dazed, torn, and confused on several levels. "But it wasn't easy.". WebDr. An Honor Roll student throughout both his primary and secondary schools, he was also President of his Freshman Class in High School. Biography [ edit] Deuel is best known for playing Billy the Kid in the movie Chisum (1970). Geoffrey Deuel was born on January 17, 1943 in Rochester, New York, USA. Deuel returned to his hometown, establishing his family medical practice in 1944, when there was no other physician in Penfield. In the summer, said Geoffrey, we built ourselves a wooden cottage out by a lake., It was lovely, says Geoffrey. But I do want your Honor to know that I am a person basically interested in other people and I would not knowingly harm anyone.. It lasted only a year. Geoffreys long list of acting credits in both film and television spans more than 35 years, beginning in 1966 in a role as an airline pilot in the TV series 12 OClock High. Hes also extremely interested in U.S. politics and regrets not having gone to law school as his father had hoped he would. We were the big kids and my sister and younger brother were the little kids. Family and friends must say goodbye to their beloved Geoffrey Deuel (Malad City, Idaho), who passed away at the age of 30, on August 31, 2016. The loss of Duel proved too great for the series to sustain and it [8][9] In Tarantino's novelization of the movie, Duel and Dalton worked together, "enjoyed each other's company" and were both "undiagnosed bipolar. Deuel is best known for playing Billy the Kid in the movie Chisum (1970). Today, I was flipping through the channels and saw, The Day They Hanged Kid Curry was on, starring Peter Duel and Ben Murphy. The police mind is often a simple mind: The autopsy showed the guy had three times as much alcohol in his blood as would have got him convicted for drunken driving, Sergeant Estrada said. So you know that if ever you see any comment by me in the press on Pete, it didnt really come from me; its not true.. Hed be 79 years old today had he not taken his own life. Alias Smith and Jones is available on DVD. In a very real sense, however, Pete Duel is present on the Pete Duel Memorial website, in books like Remembering Pete Duel, and under the loyal gaze of Pamela Deuel, and Geoffrey Deuel, the guardian, and keeper of the family flame. Mysteries & Scandals (1998). WebGeoffrey Deuel was born on January 17, 1943 in Rochester, New York, USA. So I just want to say today Pete its still missed and the wonderful things that he couldve done but I still think he is where he is today . WebPeter Ellstrom Deuel (February 24, 1940 December 31, 1971), known professionally as Pete Duel, was an American stage, television, and film actor, best known for his starring role as outlaw Hannibal Heyes (alias Joshua Smith) In the pre-COVID period since the series ended, Davis and Murphy have made periodic personal appearances at celebrity live events. He is an actor, known for Chisum (1970), Terminal Island (1973) and Toma (1973). For two years, from 1959 to 1961, he was a young drama student in that brash, exciting skyscraper city. "And I sensed that the 'powers-that-be' saw me in the quiet Redford-like role and that Peter was going to play the Newman part. It was a contact wound to the head. But they would have to cease their unlawful activity for one year, and not disclose to anyone the terms of their agreement. He was devoted to acting. I was in love with Pete and was shocked when he died. (30 years old). Sitting here eight months later it is very difficult to re-create the events of the accident or even try to find justification for my conduct. Did not care for Roger Davis like Dick Sargeant replacing Dick York! His landlady has tried for over two years to clean the blood stain off the carpet. Although the show earned good ratings, ABC decided not to bring it back after its first season. Thaddeus Jones, with Davis, formerly of Dark Shadows, and a successful voiceover artist, serving as narrator over the show's opening credits. At that time, the 60s and early 70s there were a lot of westerns on TV, but this was a light type of western. SERVICES Funeral Service WebGeoffrey Deuel Obituary. Pete had already turned down two previous series. Duel was born in Rochester, New York, the eldest of three children born to Dr. Ellsworth and Lillian Deuel (ne Ellstrom). The one big difference between Pete & myself though is this. Alcohol was probably a huge factor in his taking his life, and it sounded like he felt trapped in this acting job. Ray then said she heard a gunshot from another room and discovered Duel's body. It means also that the studio will give you work because they want to build you up. It is still there. I had boyhood dreams of meeting Pete and getting an acting carreer, though I had never mentioned this to my dad. Peter Ellstrom Deuel (February 24, 1940 December 31, 1971), known professionally as Pete Duel, was an American stage, television, and film actor, best known for his starring role as outlaw Hannibal Heyes (alias Joshua Smith) in the television series Alias Smith and Jones. "What could be more thrilling than watching those wonderful movies and its legendary actors like Henry Fonda, John Wayne, and Montgomery Clift?". The probation officer spoke up for Pete. "Tarantino on DiCaprio's "OUATIH" Character Rick Dalton Being Bipolar: 'We Never Say the Words'". For more than a decade, Geoffrey was also a teacher, specializing in theater, but he also taught math, science, and social studies. I was 10 and 11 when Alias Smith and Jones was on. He would rather have gone on doing meaty guest roles in other peoples series not to be the star of his own. It could only happen in Hollywood. Its that its all such a dreadful bore it makes you weary, weary., A successful series is, like Pete said, a trap for an actor who wants to do better things, top television script writer Bernard Slade told me. But, in his brother Geoffreys words, he really had no choice., Geoffrey makes it clear that he does not want to attack the Studios. [12], In the early hours of Friday, New Years Eve 1971, Duel died at his Hollywood Hills home of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. It is always difficult saying goodbye to someone we love and cherish. He wanted to do other things for people that he considered more meaningful and he wanted to have better parts. Best known as Dave Campbell in The Young & the Restless (1973-1977). Liked wnen he was in the love story role!! [1] Dr. Deuel is survived by his son Geoffrey and daughter-in-law, Jacqueline, of St Petersburg, Florida; his daughter, Pamela, of Valley Forge, Pennsylvania and his granddaughter, Jennifer Seymour, of Wisconsin. Glad I was able to see the show again today, and remember how much I enjoyed watching those 2 actors on the series. Geoffreys interests and talents include writing, music, the art of language, travel, international history and geography, the environment, and a wide variety of sports. Design by Laura Moretti. His most recent big screen role was in the 2001 baseball comedy, 108 Stitches. Also an actor, he has the same easy good looks, the same ready smile. At times, its as if the world has turned against you. The small screen answer to the 1969 Paul Newman/Robert Redford feature film, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Alias Smith and Jones combined a seriocomic premise and tone, entertaining stories, witty dialogue, ground-breaking cinematography, and likable performances. All three children are the offspring of Dr. Elsworth Shault Deuel and Lillian Marcella Ellstrom. There is irony to Charles Parkers comment on Petes death: Perhaps part of it was frustration in his work. And a revised opening narration now voiced by Ralph Story would subsequently reflect that: "Hannibal Heyes and Kid Curry, the two most successful outlaws in the history of the West. I was aware at the time of my fathers childhood freindship with Peter Deuel. I didnt find out until a few years ago that Pete had a brother when my dad and I were talking about Pete and his death. That is what a successful Hollywood television film-making studio is today. He was a member of the schools Varsity Soccer, Baseball, and Wrestling teams, as well as the National Honor Society. ], I remember were I was when I found out about Pete death that night I was at a new years party in liverpool my friend got me onto watching alias Smith a Jones and I loved it he was a great actor so sad there will never be another pete duel. How are you? he said, when we were introduced. These days, according to the Roger Davis Online website, owned and operated by Mike Shannon, Davis has forged a success of his own with a prominent career in high-stakes real estate. After his death, his role in Alias Smith and Jones was taken over by Roger Davis, who was previously the narrator over the opening theme of the show. It means also that the studio will give you work because they want to build you up. You slowly lose any artistic thing you may have. [13][14], Duel's girlfriend Dianne Ray was at his home at the time of his death and discovered his body. "The greatest pleasure for me as an actor is to please you," he said. I was very young at the time but now that Im MUCH older I realize that Depression and alcohol dont mix. What was the use of it all? I wish things had been different and that more help had been available back then. Duel appeared in The Psychiatrist, The Bold Ones, Ironside, and Marcus Welby, M.D. The actors must get seven to eight minutes film time in the can per day. In 1970, Duel was cast as the outlaw Hannibal Heyes, alias Joshua Smith, opposite Ben Murphy's Kid Curry, in Alias Smith and Jones, a light-hearted Western about the exploits of two outlaws trying to earn their amnesty. An estimated 1,000 friends and fans attended. Your parents didn't mind you watching it. There is no photo or video of Geoffrey Deuel.Be the first to share a memory to pay tribute. As a boy I loved Alias Smith and Jones. Burial will follow in the Malad City Cemetery. He said it was so much rubbish he couldnt read it except in small daily doses then work with him all day, and collect him at the end and bring him back home., This series, any series, is a big fat drag to an actor who has any interest in his work, Pete told Hollywood reporter Cecil Smith in September 1971. WebPamela Deuel is known for Fugitive Lovers (1975) and E! To plant Memorial Trees in memory of Geoffrey Alec Deuel, please click here to visit our Sympathy Store . Funeral arrangement under the care ofHorsley Funeral Homes. ", Understandably, Davis was startled, responded immediately, and was taken to an emergency security police phone. WebGeoffrey Alec Deuel, 30, passed away Wednesday, August 31, 2016. For all the difficulties associated with having to step into circumstances that were extremely tragic, looking back, Alias Smith and Jones was a time that I now consider almost too good to be true.". He is an actor, known for Chisum (1970), Terminal Island (1973) and Toma (1973). Biography [ edit] Deuel is best known for playing Billy the Kid in the movie Chisum (1970). Assuredly, Duel, Murphy, Davis, Heyes, Curry, and Alias Smith and Jones have done exactly that for 50 yearsand counting. He was the real star. She was already there, and the three settled down to watch the show. After a short time on Five Mile Line Road, Dr. Deuel moved the practice and his family to 1790 Penfield Road, next to Daniel Penfields house. Geoffrey Jacob Deuel (born January 17, 1943) is an American actor. But network TV was not yet ready for something as innovative as The Young Country, which, even then, was too contemporary in its presentation. WebGeoffrey Deuel was born on January 17, 1943 and is 80 years old now. We suggest you use the latest version of any of these browsers: Visiting the site with Internet Explorer or other browsers may not provide the best viewing experience. More at IMDbPro Contact info Agent info Resume Born January 17, 1943 Add to list Known for Chisum 6.8 Billy 'The Kid' Bonney 1970 Terminal Island 5.2 Chino 1973 Toma 7.6 TV Series Pure gold! ", After a lengthy pause, Huggins said, "RogerPete is dead.". He and Duel were friends, and he was devastated upon learning of his death. Eventually, he got a co-starring role in a comedy series, Gidget. On the phone! It is remorseless. The show's original cast featured Duel as Heyes, a.k.a. Geoffrey Deuel was born on January 17, 1943 in Rochester, New York, USA. Both loved the country. WebDr. I could not have asked for a better friend. At just 31 years old, he died of a self-inflicted gunshot. I think it all blew in his mind as he sat there in the front room of his country-style house, a drink in his hand and his girlfriend asleep in his bed behind. But his sight was not good enough; in later years, unknown to the millions who watched him on the screen, he wore glasses for reading while not working. It was not a run-of-the-mill cowboy idea. Two years French, Penfield High School (High Honors); Qualified to teach first and second year at High School level. And I love to train for it, every day. We just did it.". Amidst tears, disbelief, and grief, Alias Smith and Jones and everyone connected with the series and its unique situation could do nothing but continue on, and it all transpired seamlessly on screen. He was 99 years old. And how long am I going to have to do this? Ours was an effortless chemistry, a natural progression. I was diagnosed with major depression about 17 years ago and learned that alcohol is a depressant which of course only deepens depression. Pete has shot himself. Obituary. I guess there is a lot of pressure on these stars. He liked the horses, scenery, trains, and the characters struggle that things did not always go their way. English major two years Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY; Strong skills in Grammar, Composition, English and American Literature; Professional actor since 1965 in motion pictures, television, theater; Instructor/Advisor, Avenue Act One Theatre, Auburn, Washington 1979-1980; Instructor, commercial acting, Berg Talent Agency, Tampa, FL, 1984. ", As such, Murphy juxtaposed himself to that and made the creative decision to temper his pace with a more reserved performance opposite Duel. He did not watch much television, but worked all the time. Thanks for story, I know full story now. In October 1970, Universal offered Pete the co-starring role, with Ben Murphy, of Hannibal Heyes, in their new western series Alias Smith and Jones. WebGeoffrey Deuel Obituary. From individual photo windows, use the back button of your browser to return to photos list. He is an actor, known for Chisum (1970), Terminal Island (1973) and Toma (1973). "Doing the show was a very special time in my life," Davis says, "and it was and remains special for those who watched it when it first aired, and for those who still enjoy watching it today. Too bad because he was a charming guy it seemed. He did some plays at the university and, in his second year, his parents came up to see him perform in Tennessee Williams The Rose Tatoo. We met on the set of his latest success, Griff. Funeral services will be held on Saturday, September 10, in Salt Lake City, Utah. Geoffrey Deuel Death Fact Check Geoffrey is alive and kicking and is currently 80 years old. Website content Television Academy.EMMY, EMMYS, and the Emmy Statuette are registered trademarks and/or copyrights Of ATAS and NATAS.TELEVISION ACADEMY and ACADEMY OF TELEVISION ARTS & SCIENCES are registered trademarks of ATAS. He is an actor, known for Chisum (1970), Terminal Island (1973) and Toma (1973). I still feel so badly for Petes family as I can understand what they went through. was canceled in early 1973. Pete got used to working. But as Davis notes today, "Roy was no longer in control. "You have a contract to deliver this show to us, and you will continue to deliver the show as best you can on schedule or we will sue you. The young fans loved him for many reasons. They give the youngster exposure in a selection of parts to see which gets the bigger following. WebPamela Deuel is known for Fugitive Lovers (1975) and E! Isnt that often the way with suicides? And so it proved. The accident was entirely his fault. Echovita offers a solidarity program that gives back the funds generated to families. I never did pursue acting, Petes death has always stuck with me. Through a tragic twist of fate, Davis would have no choice but to be there for one friend, while he grieved for another. The entire company was reassembled and back in production by one o'clock that day shooting scenes that did not involve Peteronly 12 hours after his death. While Barefoot in the Park starred Redford and Jane Fonda, Rooftop eventually teamed Duel with Judy Carne, whom he dated shortly before the actress-comedienne found her best success on NBC's Laugh-In. ", The Davis/Duel switch had transpired due to a horrific happenstance in the middle of the show's second year, its only full season: According to the book, Remembering Pete Duel, and the Pete Duel Memorial Site, both authored by Laura Moretti, in November 1971, Duel said, "I find it difficult to keep smiling.". WebGeoffrey Jacob Deuel is the younger brother of Peter Deuel/Pete Duel, and the older brother of his sister, singer Pamela. I made a point not mentioning Pete much l did not want to get Geoffrey all upset again. Yet he told a journalist I met over there that the show was junk and I hope it gets scrapped., Egbert Swackhamer, Swack to his friends, is a leading television film director. She later went to sleep in another room while Duel stayed up. His father was a local doctor, his mother a nurse. CLICK HERE TO VIEW GEOFFREYS EDUCATION BACKGROUND, CLICK HERE TO VIEW GEOFFREYS FILMOGRAPHY. He looked around at the crowded coffee shop and smiled. "Does he dare enough? It is always difficult saying goodbye to someone we love and cherish. According to what Davis recalls Roy Huggins telling him, "The show never failed in the ratings, but when it switched time-slots from Tuesday to Saturday nights against All in the Family, Roy said we became a sacrificial lamb. But to lose Pete broke my heart. She had resided in Ocean Springs Nursing Center for the past year. Just watched an Alias Smith and Jones today on TV. Photo source and The importance of saying "I love you" during COVID-19, Effective ways of dealing with the grieving process, Solutions to show your sympathy safely during the Covid-19 pandemic. Malad City, ID. WebGeoffrey Deuel was born on January 17, 1943 and is 80 years old now. He was brutally outspoken: He had a self-destructive urge, that young man. It stays the same; it is a personality., Pete became even more outspokenly bitter about his work. Into the mix, was Larson's top-notch production skills and Huggins' words that transferred from page to screen with a sophisticated twist and turn of colloquial terms and phrases. ", "I cherish that response from the fans," Murphy intones, "and I honor them for it.". "I loved that movie," he says. WebGeoffrey Deuel, Actor: Chisum. Either or can get you into a lot of trouble and there is treatment and counseling but only if one wants it. Malad City, ID. I was only 7 when he shot himself. He was completely smashed. The Christmas tree stood in Petes front room with his parents presents wrapped beneath the branches waiting for them. by Tex Maddox; Movie Life, June 1967 What a loss. He was one of the greatest guys you could meet. Pete had telephoned his girlfriend Dianne Ray and asked her to come over to his place and watch it with him. It means also that the studio will give you work because they want to build you up., When Pete Duel signed that contract which for so many young actors would have been a gateway to Utopia he started on the road that led to cerebral destruction.. Burial will follow in the Malad City Cemetery. Murphy likened his good-natured interplay with Duel and Davis to that of Robert Conrad and Ross Martin's cheerful interaction on The Wild Wild West (CBS, 196569). When in July 1967, Universal, the most successful motion picture studio in Hollywood, offered him an exclusive 7-year contract, he accepted it. It is always difficult saying goodbye to someone we love and cherish. He probably should have been seeing a psychiatrist about how to deal with his problems. At about one a.m., my telephone rang, Harold said. To this day I have a serious soft spot for him, and hope he is at peace. Cerebral destruction, are the grim words of the police report that I read in the office of the local coroner. For such individuals, he says, Smith and Jones "was a show that the whole family would watch together. According to Davis, "ABC wanted a more traditional Western starring Clint Walker," which eventually materialized one year later as Yuma, an Aaron Spelling production that also did not make it to series. He was under pressure, but, by God, so are we all. Despite Universals hurried re-casting and the valiant efforts of Roger Davis to play the part created by someone else, the show ran for only seventeen more episodes. Like any other factory employee, Pete began work at the studio on the latest six-day shooting of an Alias Smith and Jones episode early on the morning of Monday, 27th December 1971 two days after Christmas. Yes, he got tied up, said Geoffrey Deuel. Its very seductive. Harold assured me that Pete was sober when he left. In the history of television westerns, Alias Smith and Jones stands out from the pack. The show was not the same. Julie (England ), Im 75 now but saw a program on YouTube and remembered an encounter with Pete Duel in 1962 the year I came to NYC but the strange thing that I recollect is afterward his writing his name and phone number on a slip of paper but it was spelled differently. WebGeoffrey Deuel Obituary. So much talent and life to live wasted, so sad. WebGeoffrey Deuel was born on 17 January 1943 in Rochester, New York, USA. Wearing a black hat, black shirt and gilt holster, he would with Ben Murphy reshoot the previous weeks episode and complete the series. I was going to have dinner with the family that weekend, Egbert Swackhamer had told me. He was young and handsome and had a great TV show. Funeral services will be held on Saturday, September 10, in Salt Lake City, Utah. 2023 Geoffrey Deuel. According to Geoffrey, as noble and dedicated as any brother could be, Duel periodically felt confined by the grind that comes with the territory of working on a weekly series like Smith and Jones. ", Echoing the sentiments of Davis and Murphy, Geoffrey frequently hears from followers of Smith and Jones as to how much the show "changed their lives in many ways. Hannibal Heyes and Kid Curry were equals who knew each other's idiosyncrasies.". Then when the moguls deem the time is right, they put him in a series as a star. He does very well out of it financially; so do they. Geoffrey Alec Deuel. The drunken driving charge was not proceeded with. Murphy, like Duel, was also contracted with Universal, and was subsequently called in to audition for Smith and Jones. He was 99 years old. You can send your sympathy in the guestbook provided and share it with the family. Such a shame. He said it was trash. The simple things in life were what Pete loved so simple that most other people would not like them. A revolver was lying beside him. I loved alias smith and jones i was 6 or 7 when it first came on. I know you're on vacation, but you have to come back and replace him. WebGeoffrey Jacob Deuel is an American actor born in Lockport, New York, on January 17, 1943, and is also a writer, teacher, and U.S. veteran. It may be as I have read, Pete Duel had a string of failures. Of your browser to return to photos list deal with his parents presents wrapped beneath the branches waiting them! Over to his hometown, establishing his family medical practice in 1944, when there was no longer control. 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