It is my bicycle gun. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! Guess what? It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. No aluminum. Totally precision stainless steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, best sights in class, best take down in class, One of the most Mild mannered shooting guns made for that size. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! Glad I didnt see mine. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. My shooting buddy has an LCP. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Lol, I think he is a troll with other guns as well. I actually have the cm9 and cw380 both and never an issue with either one. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Ruger LCP Max 2. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. I like mine. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. It is light and works. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. . Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re However, it is pricey and a bit bulkier than some of the others. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) Its manageable. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. Its that bad. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. I certainly wouldnt be happy. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. I chose. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. Diamondback has been plagued by trouble. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Just keep shooting your pistol. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. the fact you just dont like it? The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. Mild. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Broke the ejector. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. The Pico is top notch. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. AMEN . Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. Built like a tank. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. George have you tried a different ammo brand? How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. I appreciate the review. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. Super gun, works every time. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. As soon as I saw the title I knew the Pico would be on the list. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. Sure just I can do it blind folded. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. Did you give them Cyrillic numbers to rate with? Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! Nicer than the price would indicate. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Because they werent reliable? The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). Its not. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. based on what your stupid opinion? Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. Arguably one of the best and most popular pocket pistols, the pf9, was not on the spreadsheet. i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. Its very much a personal decision then, based on fit, function, and how well it shoots. The Mag release is a piece of cake. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. Stainless steel through out the gun. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. The .380 pistol which has the least recoil? Above, a Ruger, below a Browning 1911380 Without even looking at their spec sheets, we can guess that Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. And than some. Are you kidding me? CM40 is my summe4 carry. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. The Picos have a huge fan base. How do they perform? The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. So, I would never consider one. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. Hellcat 380. +1. We saw your review and write up. It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. Snicker. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. He didnt even require them to be positive. Note to self, Get to the range! lol Damon really? Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Why people follow them is a mystery. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. There is an author named John Lott, who became a best seller from an unknown very quickly by doing exactly that. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). And we have to like it enough to carry it. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? For College Campuses! Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. Thats along what I was thinking. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. Maybe so few were sold they didnt make the list. Best 380 Ive ever had. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. Bersa Thunder 5. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. Accurate for cheap junk. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. And surely have not shot one or very little. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. OMG! It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. And just recently bought my Third Pico. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. You get two shots, a single-action-only Bottom line: you can do much better. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. Sleek design, totally snag proof. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. LMFAO!!!! The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? What a joke. How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? His post show that he is just posting without knowledge of the firearms. Have you ever even shot one? Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. He says the trigger is horrible? I had issues with mine to start. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. No thanks. Taurus 738: Price $355.66. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. You have entered an incorrect email address! I fell for the Pico hype. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. How is it possibly at the top of the list? The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. Bought it brand new. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. Bottom line, a lifetime warranty isnt worth squat if they cant fix the problem and their only answer is to blame the customer. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. This gun is selling better than ever years later. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . Trigger sucked. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. I broke the firing pin on the first day. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. And what sucks is I held off buying a 380 cause I really thought the Pico would be great. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. yes the Masss might love them, but who the hell are the masses? I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? Only time I tried one I did not like it. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. The mag will spring out when done correctly. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. My advice. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? I like the concept at least. Any kind of ammo. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. One for range and one for carry. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. Thanks for your post. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. Literally, it is.) One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. Look at the back of the slide. No issue with it. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. 6. No I dont own one I own two. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. Hey, look Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol.
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